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Vitamin C Intravenous in Canada

Vitamin C Intravenous in Canada

Posted by paty_mcn on Apr 2, 2018 8:07 am

Hi.
We read so many positive articles related to Vitamin C Intravenous therapy and we want to try it.

Our uncle was diagnosed with Cancer 4 and the doctor recommended him treatment with Vitamin C IV 30 grams per day + Vitamin B17 Capsules.

Can someone tell us where to buy?

Thanks

Re: Vitamin C Intravenous in Canada

Posted by changes on Apr 2, 2018 9:27 am

Hi paty_mcn‍ -

My wife is doing it at the Marsden Clinic (Dufferin and Rutherfood - near-ish to Wonderland).  I believe she said recently that there's another clinic, Urban Integrative IV and Detox Clinic, near Yonge/Bloor (downtown) that has it as well.  

Those are the only two that we are currently aware of. Hopefully those locations work for you!

Re: Vitamin C Intravenous in Canada

Posted by paty_mcn on Apr 8, 2018 2:12 pm

Hello.
Thank you very much for your informations.
Finally we find a european supplier of Vitamin C IV. Here in Canada the price of Vit C IV is so huge.
My uncle started the treatment and we hope to have good results.
We will keep you updated.
We wish you all the best.
 

Re: Vitamin C Intravenous in Canada

Posted by changes on Apr 9, 2018 9:57 am

Hi paty_mcn‍ 

may I ask which country you're buying from? My wife purchased from Germany but it was only slightly cheaper when you factored in shipping.

Was the doctor that recommended the Vitaminc C an oncologist (conventional cancer doctor)?  

All the best with your uncle's healing journey!

Re: Vitamin C Intravenous in Canada

Posted by paty_mcn on Apr 11, 2018 1:09 pm

Hello.
The oncologist recommended us to start asap this alternative therapy with Vitamin C IV.
We are buying from Romania and we paid 30USD$ for each IV Vial 100mL (10grams Ascorbic Acid) + shipping Europe to Canada.
For Vitamin B17 Natural we paid 60USD$ pack of 150 capsules.
Thank you too.

Re: Vitamin C Intravenous in Canada

Posted by bert_flo on Apr 21, 2018 2:05 am

Hi.
paty_mcn
We need also Vitamin C IV.
‍could you give us the supplier's page...phone?
It is so hard to find here in Canada...
Blessings.
Berta 

Re: Vitamin C Intravenous in Canada

Posted by WendyC on Apr 23, 2018 2:30 am

When I was first diagnosed my sister suggested I do IV Vit C,   I talked to my dr about it but it would interfear with the type of treatment I'm on. I didn't get a chance to look into it but it sounds interesting.   I' am surprised the oncologist didn't have somewhere to refer you to when they suggested it. If you order it in who does the IV for him?  I hope you're able to get it staightened out and that it's helpful for your uncle.

Re: Vitamin C Intravenous in Canada

Posted by Lacey_adminCCS on Apr 23, 2018 10:03 am

WendyC‍ 

You bring up an important point I wanted to highlight.

It is important for people to talk to their Oncologist and medical team about any additional treatment, medications, or therapies you plan on trying to make sure it does not interfere with your treatment.

Well wishes to all,
Lacey

Re: Vitamin C Intravenous in Canada

Posted by paty_mcn on Apr 25, 2018 1:08 am

Hello.
bert_flo‍ 

I'm not sure that is allowed to share links but i will share it anyway...
I know how hard it is to need a medicine and not find it...
Here it is their blog and also their contact

vitamincvial.blogspot.com

Best regards.

Re: Vitamin C Intravenous in Canada

Posted by DavidB on Jun 19, 2018 8:52 pm

Hey thank you for the link! It shouldn't be this complicated to get IV solutions of C!!!

I'm just wondering, in practice how do you inject the Vitamin C IV solution?

Do you get a nurse or your doctor to do it? Do you go to a clinic? Or at home?

I'm asking because it's not clear what to do and self-injection is not a good idea.

Thanks

David

Re: Vitamin C Intravenous in Canada

Posted by bpio on Nov 21, 2019 10:11 am

strange that this thread has stopped and no one anwsered last post regarding iv administration and injection

Re: Vitamin C Intravenous in Canada

Posted by Cynthia Mac on Nov 22, 2019 8:50 am

bpio‍ , it’s possible that this thread was abandoned due to another one that was posted. We had quite a debate about vitamin C here on the site about that time, when someone passed along information about using high doses of Vitamin C to treat a specific cancer. 

Lacey_adminCCS’‍s post  (3 down from your own) pretty well sums it up. (Lacey is one of our site administrators.) 

When my Dad started chemo, he was told not to take Vitamin C, or other “antioxidant supplements” like turmeric paste.  Antioxidants counteract what the chemotherapy is designed to do. Dad’s doctor said he could still eat curry, and eat an orange or two, but to lay off the supplements. 

I also observe that one of the later posts in this thread had someone posting a link, not knowing if it “is allowed” or not so it’s quite probable that the individual was privately advised “or not.”

Cancer Connection is a support service. We don’t give (and aren’t qualified to provide) medical advice, or recommendations about treatments, physicians, or facilities. We advise that everyone’s cancer is different, and while we share personal experiences, everyone reacts differently, and it’s important to heed the expertise of one’s medical team. 

You are welcome to tell us more about yourself. There are people here who can offer good advice and strategies to help you cope with what you are going through.
“When the root is deep, there is no reason to fear the wind.” - Japanese saying

Re: Vitamin C Intravenous in Canada

Posted by Peony on Nov 23, 2019 1:32 pm

Shortly after I was diagnosed with Metastatic Breast Cancer I was told the same thing by my oncologist: No anti-oxidant vitamins. The palliative care I receive includes seeing a dietician who helps me maintain a nutrient rich diet. 
 

Re: Vitamin C Intravenous in Canada

Posted by DocHary on Jan 14, 2020 9:55 am

It is a pity that there are still oncologist which tell their patients such nonsense. Sorry for that offensive wording, but as doctor which is in Vitamin therapies for more than 20 years now I find it at least strange, what oncologists tell their patients. From my experience they either don't know how exactly their therapy works or they more interested in the money rather than the health of their patients.
That nonsense with "antioxidants interfere with chemotherapy or radiation therapy" is disproved for more than ten years now. In 2007 have been released two very big meta analyses about this topic and both showed exactly the opposite: people who take Vitamins and antioxidants together with their ordinary therapy live longer, have fewer side effects and a better reaction to their chemo or radiation.
You can find those studies here:
 Simone C.B. et al.: Antioxidants and other nutrients do not interfere with chemotherapy or radiation therapy and can increase kill and increase survival, part 1. Altern Ther Health Med. 2007: S. 22-28.
and
Block K.I. et al.:Impact of antioxidant supplementation on chemotherapeutic efficacy: a systematic review of the evidence from randomized controlled trials. Cancer Treat Rev. 2007 Aug;33(5):407-18. Epub 2007 Mar 23.

One more hint: a natural mix of vitamins and phytochemicals is much more effective than synthetic products ...
 

Re: Vitamin C Intravenous in Canada

Posted by ACH2015 on Jan 14, 2020 10:08 am

DocHary‍ 

Just the facts - that's all.

As per the Canadian Cancer Society:

"It may be claimed that an alternative therapy can cure cancer. But good scientific research has not yet shown that alternative therapies are effective or safe in treating cancer. Choosing to use an alternative therapy can have serious health effects, such as the cancer spreading or getting worse. Delaying conventional cancer treatment to use an alternative therapy can lower the chances of treating the cancer successfully".  It's all about scientific facts - not opinion.

ACH2015
 

Re: Vitamin C Intravenous in Canada

Posted by DocHary on Jan 14, 2020 11:06 am

ACH2015:
DocHary‍ 

Just the facts - that's all.

As per the Canadian Cancer Society:

"It may be claimed that an alternative therapy can cure cancer. But good scientific research has not yet shown that alternative therapies are effective or safe in treating cancer. Choosing to use an alternative therapy can have serious health effects, such as the cancer spreading or getting worse. Delaying conventional cancer treatment to use an alternative therapy can lower the chances of treating the cancer successfully". 

It's all about scientific facts - not opinion.

ACH2015
 

 

Does that mean, you deny the scientific studies I mentioned because you don't believe them?
Or didn't you read my statement till the end?
And if read it carefully, you will find out that I didn't talk of alternative therapies alone. The studies say, that the addition is useful.
If You like, I can provide you with hundreds of them - just scientific facts ...

Re: Vitamin C Intravenous in Canada

Posted by DocHary on Jan 14, 2020 11:12 am

But I know from hundreds of talks to cancer patients how difficult it is to find your own unique way in the jungle of different opinions. If You ask 4 doctors you will probably get 5 different opinions 😉.
Thats why studies are so important, but hard to read and judge for patients.
 

Re: Vitamin C Intravenous in Canada

Posted by ACH2015 on Jan 14, 2020 11:23 am

DocHary‍ 

I'm not going down the debating team road here. Last reply from me thanks.

You mention studies that are thirteen years old - 2007. I have to believe that if those studies held water both then and today, recommendations would be different coming from Western Conventional Medically Trained Oncology Doctors.

I have to believe the reason I am alive is due to current proven scientific conventional treatments I've participated in - including stopping antioxidant supplements during those conventional therapies.

So, believe what you will, as I will do. You can't do a half A$$ job of managing cancer during treatments and expect the best possible results. My specialists aren't making any profits from telling me not to take something during treatments. BTW, there was complete consensus amongst the dozens of specialists and technologists that treated me in 10 different hospitals during my treatments. No conspiracy theories please. I don't buy into them.

Good luck in your beliefs, I'll believe the science behind conventional therapies and the model recommended to follow them.

Thanks.

ACH2015

Re: Vitamin C Intravenous in Canada

Posted by Treepeo on Jan 14, 2020 3:29 pm

Hi ACH2015‍,

I'm with you.

My oncologist sent a dietician my way, and she told me what I could and could not eat and drink during my chemo treatments.  And I listened, because it is important.  I wanted my chemo to be as effective as possible.  Now that I have been off chemo for months, I am focussed on eating even more veggies and fruit than I did in the past, and am expanding the kinds of foods I eat.  I think it is far better to get your nutrients from food than it is to get them from supplements.  

And you're right.  Oncologists are not making money telling people not to take supplements.  The companies that make them and the people that push them are the ones making the money, and off the backs of people at their most vulnerable, too.  It is disgusting.

Re: Vitamin C Intravenous in Canada

Posted by Cynthia Mac on Jan 15, 2020 10:38 am

DocHary‍ , I read the study for which you provided the link. The first place I go when I read a study is to go to the “about the authors.” This study was authorized by four people, all of whom have the surname Simone, and when I clicked on the “about” link, it didn’t give me the credentials for each, it just said, “Simone Protective Cancer Institute, Lawrenceville, NJ, USA.” Red flag # 1.

In order to cite a substantial number of subjects, the authors opted to amass data from 50 different studies. Red flag # 2

The scope of the study includes vitamins that are antioxidants, and several which are not. Red flag #3.

The study also appears to be based on a search of databases and peer reviewed papers of other studies conducted over an almost 40 year period. It could be argued that this is too long a time span to produce meaningful results. Red flag #4.

When I googled “Simone Protective Cancer Institute,” the VERY FIRST result that popped up was “Simone Protective Health Product Store” - the cancer institute was the second result, and it was a listing on the networking site, “Linked in”. Red flag # 5

So, this article raised several red flags for me. Further, since my dad’s oncologist has him taking some supplements mentioned in the study, it indicates to me that at least one oncologist is aware that some advancement has been made in the last 13 years in the area of including certain nutritional supplements in tandem with modern cancer treatments.

Thank you, though, for providing the information.



 

 
“When the root is deep, there is no reason to fear the wind.” - Japanese saying