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Oral Surgeons not Available during covid

Oral Surgeons not Available during covid

Posted by ProximalHades on May 1, 2020 10:58 am

I have a concerning, painful, numbness causing lump in my mouth I have been trying to get diagnosed since before Christmas. I saw an endodontist in February and they did a CT. He referred me to an oral pathologist/surgeon but with covid they are not operational. Who else would be able to help with this? I’ve tried my family doctor and my neurologist and they both say they can’t do anything as it is not their department. 
I finally have an ENT appointment on Tuesday to discuss a MRI, but I am nervous since I’ve had many nose surgeries they will just comment on that as I have never seen an ENT before. Am I being lost on the system?

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Posted by Lianne_adminCCS on May 1, 2020 5:20 pm

ProximalHades‍ 

Hello and welcome to the site. Sorry to hear you have been feeling pain and not heard.
Is your appointment on Tuesday in their office or over the phone? If it is in person, they can check out your concerns. Either way, it will be up to you to keep the conversation on the topic/concern at hand.
If you don't feel you are getting anywhere after this appointment, ask/insist the ENT help you determine next steps. 
You may also want to call your provincial heath line. In BC it is 8-1-1. If it gets too bad, emergency might be a last ditch option.

I hope you get some answers on Tuesday. Let us know how it goes.

Lianne

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Posted by ProximalHades on May 1, 2020 5:53 pm

Thanks you. The appointment is over the phone. It has been suggested to me by one specialist to go to the ER as well if I need. 

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Posted by Jack80 on May 12, 2020 3:53 am

I am just checking if you got things progressed? Is everything at least clear enough now? I have a similar issue

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Posted by ProximalHades on May 12, 2020 9:57 am

No have to wait until the end of covid

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Posted by Jack80 on May 12, 2020 11:31 am

Which is going to be soon 

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Posted by ProximalHades on May 12, 2020 12:48 pm

That is what I have been told, since March 11. My appointments have been scheduled and cancelled over and over. They are no longer scheduling appointments for the future and are just waiting now though. 

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Posted by ProximalHades on May 12, 2020 1:08 pm

Oral surgeons are not covered under MSP and are non essential as is dentistry. My family doctor did prioritize my case as urgent and all the imaging was done, but unfortunately the only doctor able to diagnose me is non essential and will be one of the last services to open up

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Posted by ProximalHades on May 12, 2020 1:10 pm

The creative way was going around the oral surgeon to have the MRI done and a referral to an ENT to see what they can do. They do not biopsy or deal with mouth muscles and nerves. That is the oral surgeon/pathologist. Which are non essential.

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Posted by Elsie13 on May 12, 2020 1:53 pm

ProximalHades‍ , What a terrible situation.  Do you want to contact the web-page of a newspaper or TV station with your story?

https://www.ctvnews.ca/more/contact-ctv-news

 These Quarantine Diaries, I was only able to find it for Montreal.    Maybe you can find something for BC?       Or go to the Facebook page of a TV station???   Scroll half way down: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quarantine-diaries-covid-quebec-1.5509321#Submission%20Form

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quarantine-diaries-covid-quebec-1.5509321

  
     


 
In 2016: diagnosed with stage 2 ovarian cancer. Treatment: hysterectomy, chemo, radiation. Afterwards: No Evidence of Disease!

Re: Oral Surgeons not Available during covid

Posted by ProximalHades on May 12, 2020 1:57 pm

I probably should but the fatigue is telling me to not bother ha

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Posted by Elsie13 on May 12, 2020 3:07 pm

ProximalHades‍ 

"When I'm stuck in a day
That's gray,
And lonely,
I just stick out my chin
And Grin,
And Say,
Oh
Tomorrow!

Tomorrow!"  And then of course there's Thursday.  That might work!
 

In 2016: diagnosed with stage 2 ovarian cancer. Treatment: hysterectomy, chemo, radiation. Afterwards: No Evidence of Disease!

Re: Oral Surgeons not Available during covid

Posted by Jack80 on May 12, 2020 3:35 pm

In Ontario, I was told oral surgeons are allowed to see urgent cases such as infections and cancers.
They can not ignore a large group of oral patients because they think it is non-essential.

Finger-crossed.


 

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Posted by Jack80 on May 12, 2020 4:05 pm

I am in the same situation where I was referred to ENT and Maxillofacial Surgeon. Both of them canceled my appointments. I emailed the maxillofacial clinic and they called me back to explain that they will not be able to book anything before June 15th. They promise me to look into the CT scans if my family doctor sends them and if I need surgery they may refer me for that. I had the MRI on my neck as the MRI services are working in the outpatient clinics but I got today a cancellation letter from the hospital that only Cancer /Furctuing patients are allowed to have CT for now.
To make things worse. My family doctor sent me an email telling that it is all that we can help. I can not do anything more for you (means do not send me anything). Good luck.
I am not sure why I had an MRI on the neck and a CT scan on the head. is not MRI similar to a CT scan?
and by the way, do you know if the CT-Angiography image is different from normal CT? I though CTA shows what CT plus more things but not the other way around?

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Posted by Elsie13 on May 12, 2020 4:47 pm

I wonder about that too, Jack80‍ , CT vs MRI:


https://www.healthline.com/health/ct-scan-vs-mri#ct-scan : 

"CT scan vs. MRI

CT scans are more widely used than MRIs and are typically less expensive.

MRIs, however, are thought to be superior in regards to the detail of the image. The most notable difference is that CT scans use X-rays while MRIs do not."


https://www.cancer.ca/en/cancer-information/diagnosis-and-treatment/tests-and-procedures/magnetic-resonance-imaging-mri/?region=qc

https://www.cancer.ca/en/cancer-information/diagnosis-and-treatment/tests-and-procedures/computed-tomography-ct-scan/?region=qc

 
In 2016: diagnosed with stage 2 ovarian cancer. Treatment: hysterectomy, chemo, radiation. Afterwards: No Evidence of Disease!

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Posted by Jack80 on May 12, 2020 5:52 pm

Thanks for the information 
In fact my confusion is the difference between normal CT and CTA and if CTA includes a CT image plus other things or it is something else 

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Posted by Elsie13 on May 13, 2020 6:03 pm

Not too sure about that, Jack80‍ .  CT - Angiography is done to look at blood vessels?

https://www.cancer.ca/en/cancer-information/diagnosis-and-treatment/tests-and-procedures/angiography/?region=qc
In 2016: diagnosed with stage 2 ovarian cancer. Treatment: hysterectomy, chemo, radiation. Afterwards: No Evidence of Disease!